Permssion denied for dbo

Hi,
My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
However, when I create tables using either account they are shown as not
being owned by dbo.
Then, when I try to insert or update these tables, it says permission denied.
How can this be? I'm a dbo? Even if I wern't a dbo, as I own the table I
shoyuld be able to modify its data. Whats going on here?
ThanksHi
Because these accounts are not member of sysadmin server role
Try do
CREATE TABLE dbo.Mytabale
(
blalala
)
"Firestarter" <Firestarter@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
> However, when I create tables using either account they are shown as not
> being owned by dbo.
> Then, when I try to insert or update these tables, it says permission
denied.
> How can this be? I'm a dbo? Even if I wern't a dbo, as I own the table I
> shoyuld be able to modify its data. Whats going on here?
> Thanks|||Yes, I'm sure that would help create the tables as owned by dbo, but that
that is not my issue.
I still can't update or insert into these tables even though I am logging on
as a dbo.
Any ideas why not?
"Uri Dimant" wrote:
> Hi
> Because these accounts are not member of sysadmin server role
> Try do
> CREATE TABLE dbo.Mytabale
> (
> blalala
> )
> "Firestarter" <Firestarter@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5C0E66A8-2327-456A-8605-A9B13D82C158@.microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
> > However, when I create tables using either account they are shown as not
> > being owned by dbo.
> > Then, when I try to insert or update these tables, it says permission
> denied.
> >
> > How can this be? I'm a dbo? Even if I wern't a dbo, as I own the table I
> > shoyuld be able to modify its data. Whats going on here?
> >
> > Thanks
>
>|||"Firestarter" schrieb:
> Yes, I'm sure that would help create the tables as owned by dbo, but that
> that is not my issue.
> I still can't update or insert into these tables even though I am logging on
> as a dbo.
> Any ideas why not?
You can update the tables as dbo! You just have to add the ownername before
the objectname (as the dbo is not the owner of the object).
Objects that belong to the dbo can always be accessed by everybody without
the owner's name, because 'dbo' is the default owner ...|||> My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
Are these Windows or SQL Server logins?
Since you say that two different logins are "dbo" in a database, you are saying that both are
sysadmin? Right? (You cannot have two logins being the same user in a database).
How do you determine that both are dbo? What tools/commands do you use to determine this?
Or are you saying that both are in the db_owner role in the database? That is a different thing from
being the dbo of a database.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Firestarter" <Firestarter@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5C0E66A8-2327-456A-8605-A9B13D82C158@.microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
> However, when I create tables using either account they are shown as not
> being owned by dbo.
> Then, when I try to insert or update these tables, it says permission denied.
> How can this be? I'm a dbo? Even if I wern't a dbo, as I own the table I
> shoyuld be able to modify its data. Whats going on here?
> Thanks|||No, I can't! Thats my point. Wether I put the owner name or not, I canot
update the table.
That is the issue I am trying to resolve.
"Christian Donner" wrote:
> "Firestarter" schrieb:
> > Yes, I'm sure that would help create the tables as owned by dbo, but that
> > that is not my issue.
> > I still can't update or insert into these tables even though I am logging on
> > as a dbo.
> > Any ideas why not?
> You can update the tables as dbo! You just have to add the ownername before
> the objectname (as the dbo is not the owner of the object).
> Objects that belong to the dbo can always be accessed by everybody without
> the owner's name, because 'dbo' is the default owner ...|||These are windows logins.
And I mean that both are in the db_owner role. Apologies for the lack of
prescsion in my post.
I am using EM to determine this,
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> > My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
> Are these Windows or SQL Server logins?
> Since you say that two different logins are "dbo" in a database, you are saying that both are
> sysadmin? Right? (You cannot have two logins being the same user in a database).
> How do you determine that both are dbo? What tools/commands do you use to determine this?
> Or are you saying that both are in the db_owner role in the database? That is a different thing from
> being the dbo of a database.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
> Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
>
> "Firestarter" <Firestarter@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5C0E66A8-2327-456A-8605-A9B13D82C158@.microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
> > However, when I create tables using either account they are shown as not
> > being owned by dbo.
> > Then, when I try to insert or update these tables, it says permission denied.
> >
> > How can this be? I'm a dbo? Even if I wern't a dbo, as I own the table I
> > shoyuld be able to modify its data. Whats going on here?
> >
> > Thanks
>|||When a db_owner (who isn't dbo) creates an object, it will not be owned by dbo. It will be owned by
that persons user name in the database. You cannot change that.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Firestarter" <Firestarter@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> These are windows logins.
> And I mean that both are in the db_owner role. Apologies for the lack of
> prescsion in my post.
> I am using EM to determine this,
> "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>> > My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
>> Are these Windows or SQL Server logins?
>> Since you say that two different logins are "dbo" in a database, you are saying that both are
>> sysadmin? Right? (You cannot have two logins being the same user in a database).
>> How do you determine that both are dbo? What tools/commands do you use to determine this?
>> Or are you saying that both are in the db_owner role in the database? That is a different thing
>> from
>> being the dbo of a database.
>> --
>> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
>> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
>> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>> Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
>>
>> "Firestarter" <Firestarter@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5C0E66A8-2327-456A-8605-A9B13D82C158@.microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > My NT and my Ad user account are both shown as dbo on a database.
>> > However, when I create tables using either account they are shown as not
>> > being owned by dbo.
>> > Then, when I try to insert or update these tables, it says permission denied.
>> >
>> > How can this be? I'm a dbo? Even if I wern't a dbo, as I own the table I
>> > shoyuld be able to modify its data. Whats going on here?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>|||Firestarter wrote:
> No, I can't! Thats my point. Wether I put the owner name or not, I
> canot update the table.
> That is the issue I am trying to resolve.
>
Are you specifying the dbo owner name in the create statement as Uri
suggested? If not, try it that way.
--
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||In an attempt to avoid the confusion I am creating, this is what I've got:
--AD server, table created using an AD account which is a member of db_owner
fixed db role
create table felix1 (test varchar(10) null)
-- Shows in EM as being owned by londonfire\hedleyf, as expected
create table dbo.felix1 (test varchar(10) null)
-- Shows in EM as being owned by dbo, as expected
--
insert felix1 (test)
values (2)
--results
Server: Msg 229, Level 14, State 5, Line 1
INSERT permission denied on object 'felix1', database 'CFS_HFSRA_V3_test',
owner 'LONDONFIRE\HEDLEYF'.
insert dbo.felix1 (test)
values (2)
--results
Server: Msg 229, Level 14, State 5, Line 1
INSERT permission denied on object 'felix1', database 'CFS_HFSRA_V3_test',
owner 'dbo'.
So I am in the db_owner role, and seem unable to update a table.
What is going on?
Thanks for your continued patience...
"David Gugick" wrote:
> Firestarter wrote:
> > No, I can't! Thats my point. Wether I put the owner name or not, I
> > canot update the table.
> > That is the issue I am trying to resolve.
> >
> Are you specifying the dbo owner name in the create statement as Uri
> suggested? If not, try it that way.
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com
>|||Firestarter wrote:
> In an attempt to avoid the confusion I am creating, this is what I've
> got:
To avoid confusion, you should _always_ include the owner name is DDL,
DML, and SELECT statements. Try granting yourself rights to the table.
--
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||Tried that, didn't work. But I shouldn't have anyway, should I?
"David Gugick" wrote:
> Firestarter wrote:
> > In an attempt to avoid the confusion I am creating, this is what I've
> > got:
> To avoid confusion, you should _always_ include the owner name is DDL,
> DML, and SELECT statements. Try granting yourself rights to the table.
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com
>